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* [link_URL TITLE]<ref>[url_from_news_item_show_notes PUBLICATION: TITLE]</ref>
* [https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/09/maya-ritual-enemas-and-constipated-scorpions-the-2022-ig-nobel-prize-winners/ Here are the winners of the 2022 Ig Nobel Prizes]<ref>[https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/09/maya-ritual-enemas-and-constipated-scorpions-the-2022-ig-nobel-prize-winners/ Ars Technica: Here are the winners of the 2022 Ig Nobel Prizes]</ref>
   
   
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* [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/well/family/asking-for-help.html Go Ahead, Ask for Help. People Are Happy to Give It.]<ref>[https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/well/family/asking-for-help.html NYT: Go Ahead, Ask for Help. People Are Happy to Give It.]</ref>


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* [https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/will-fedimints-bring-bitcoin-to-the-world Can fedimints help bitcoin scale to the world?]<ref>[https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/will-fedimints-bring-bitcoin-to-the-world Bitcoin Magazine: Can fedimints help bitcoin scale to the world?]</ref>


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* [link_URL Effects of cocoa extract and a multivitamin on cognitive function: A randomized clinical trial]<ref>[url_from_news_item_show_notes Alzheimer's Association: Effects of cocoa extract and a multivitamin on cognitive function: A randomized clinical trial]</ref>


=== Refreezing the Poles <small>()</small> ===
=== Refreezing the Poles <small>(42:07)</small> ===
* [link_URL TITLE]<ref>[url_from_news_item_show_notes PUBLICATION: TITLE]</ref>
* [https://phys.org/news/2022-09-refreezing-earth-poles-feasible-cheap.html Refreezing Earth's poles feasible and cheap, new study finds]<ref>[https://phys.org/news/2022-09-refreezing-earth-poles-feasible-cheap.html Institute of Physics: Refreezing Earth's poles feasible and cheap, new study finds]</ref>


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=== Neuro Emotional Technique <small>(55:50)</small> ===
* [link_URL TITLE]<ref>[url_from_news_item_show_notes PUBLICATION: TITLE]</ref>
* [https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medical-health-and-nutrition-pseudoscience/neuro-emotional-technique-bizarre-hybrid-chiropractic-acupuncture-and-applied-kinesiology The Neuro Emotional Technique Is a Bizarre Hybrid of Chiropractic, Acupuncture, and Applied Kinesiology]<ref>[https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medical-health-and-nutrition-pseudoscience/neuro-emotional-technique-bizarre-hybrid-chiropractic-acupuncture-and-applied-kinesiology McGill: The Neuro Emotional Technique Is a Bizarre Hybrid of Chiropractic, Acupuncture, and Applied Kinesiology]</ref>


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SGU Episode 898
September 24th 2022
898 polar ice cap.png

2012 Arctic sea ice minimum. Outline shows average minimum 1979-2010.[1]

SGU 897                      SGU 899

Skeptical Rogues
S: Steven Novella

B: Bob Novella

C: Cara Santa Maria

J: Jay Novella

E: Evan Bernstein

Guest

DA: David Almena (sp?), SGU Patron

Quote of the Week

In the field of thinking, the whole history of science – from geocentrism to the Copernican revolution, from the false absolutes of Aristotle's physics to the relativity of Galileo's principle of inertia and to Einstein's theory of relativity – shows that it has taken centuries to liberate us from the systematic errors, from the illusions caused by the immediate point of view as opposed to "decentered" systematic thinking.

Jean Piaget, Swiss psychologist

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Introduction, Guest Rogue

Voice-over: You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.

News Items

S:

B:

C:

J:

E:

(laughs) (laughter) (applause) [inaudible]

2022 Ig Nobels (2:08)

It's OK to Ask for Help (12:06)

Bitcoin and Fedimints (20:03)

Multivitamins for Memory (28:17)

  • [link_URL Effects of cocoa extract and a multivitamin on cognitive function: A randomized clinical trial][5]

Refreezing the Poles (42:07)

Neuro Emotional Technique (55:50)

Who's That Noisy? (1:07:17)

J: ... I did. This Noisy has appeared on the show before.[link needed]


New Noisy (1:12:05)

[gibberish song with trumpet and percussion beat]

J: So if you think you know what this week's Noisy is ...

Announcements (1:13:06)

Questions/Emails/Corrections/Follow-ups (1:16:39)

Followup #1: Chess Cheating

Science or Fiction (1:23:43)

Theme: Global Warming

Item #1: A survey of 48 coastal cities finds that they are sinking at an average rate of 16.2 mm per year, with the fastest at 43 mm per year. (For reference, average global sea level rise is 3.7 mm per year.)[8]
Item #2: A recent study estimates the total social cost of releasing carbon into the atmosphere at $185 per tonne, which is triple the current US government estimate. (For reference, the world emits >34 billion tonnes of CO2 each year.)[9]
Item #3: The latest climate models indicate that even with rapid decarbonization it is too late to prevent eventual warming >1.5 C.[10]

Answer Item
Fiction Too late to prevent >1.5 °C
Science Carbon release estimate
Science
Cities are sinking
Host Result
Steve win
Rogue Guess
David
Cities are sinking
Jay
Too late to prevent >1.5 °C
Bob
Too late to prevent >1.5 °C
Evan
Too late to prevent >1.5 °C
Cara
Too late to prevent >1.5 °C

Voice-over: It's time for Science or Fiction.

David's Response

Jay's Response

Bob's Response

Evan's Response

Cara's Response

Steve Explains Item #2

Steve Explains Item #1

Steve Explains Item #3

Skeptical Quote of the Week (1:41:09)

In the field of thinking, the whole history of science – from geocentrism to the Copernican revolution, from the false absolutes of Aristotle's physics to the relativity of Galileo's principle of inertia and to Einstein's theory of relativity – shows that it has taken centuries to liberate us from the systematic errors, from the illusions caused by the immediate point of view as opposed to "decentered" systematic thinking.

Jean Piaget (1896-1980), Swiss psychologist

Signoff

S: —and until next week, this is your Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.

S: Skeptics' Guide to the Universe is produced by SGU Productions, dedicated to promoting science and critical thinking. For more information, visit us at theskepticsguide.org. Send your questions to info@theskepticsguide.org. And, if you would like to support the show and all the work that we do, go to patreon.com/SkepticsGuide and consider becoming a patron and becoming part of the SGU community. Our listeners and supporters are what make SGU possible.

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