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'''G:''' Gentlemen! It's been far too long. It's been, what, four weeks? Three weeks? Eight weeks? [[SGU Episode 875|What's it been?]] <small><span style="color:grey">(Transcriptionist’s note: July 6 was 14 weeks after March 27!)</span></small>
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'''E:''' Steve, didn't we have a Science or Fiction about the earliest firearms recently?{{Link needed}}
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* [https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/possible-universal-coronavirus-vaccine/ Possible Universal Coronavirus Vaccine]<ref>[https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/possible-universal-coronavirus-vaccine/ {{sbm}}: Possible Universal Coronavirus Vaccine]</ref>
   
   
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=== Preserving Ukraine's Landmarks <small>(40:44)</small> ===
* [https://www.fastcompany.com/90740180/unesco-project-aims-to-digitally-preserve-ukraine-landmarks-facing-damage-by-war UNESCO project aims to digitally preserve Ukraine landmarks facing damage by war]<ref>[https://www.fastcompany.com/90740180/unesco-project-aims-to-digitally-preserve-ukraine-landmarks-facing-damage-by-war Fast Company: UNESCO project aims to digitally preserve Ukraine landmarks facing damage by war]</ref>


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=== Detecting Particles with Gravitational Waves <small>(52:01)</small> ===
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* [https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/06/220607120927.htm Detecting new particles around black holes with gravitational waves]<ref>[https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/06/220607120927.htm ScienceDaily: Detecting new particles around black holes with gravitational waves]</ref>


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=== Who Owns the Moon? <small>(1:00:37)</small> ===
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* [https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/china-rejects-nasa-accusation-will-take-moon-rcna36656 China rejects NASA accusation it will take over the moon]<ref>[https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/china-rejects-nasa-accusation-will-take-moon-rcna36656 NBC: China rejects NASA accusation it will take over the moon]</ref>


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[https://twitter.com/nibbledtodeath Dave Stanton], {{w|paleogenetics|paleogeneticist}} and Research Associate at Queen Mary University of London<br>
== Announcements <small>()</small> ==
* [https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01551-z Ice Age wolf genomes home in on dog origins]<ref>[https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01551-z Nature: Ice Age wolf genomes home in on dog origins]</ref><br>
 
* [https://www.popsci.com/science/dna-wolves-dogs-domestication-evolution Ancient wolf DNA is being used to sniff out where our love story with dogs began]<ref>[https://www.popsci.com/science/dna-wolves-dogs-domestication-evolution Popular Science: Ancient wolf DNA is being used to sniff out where our love story with dogs began]</ref>
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SGU Episode 887
July 9th 2022
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SGU 886                      SGU 888

Skeptical Rogues
S: Steven Novella

B: Bob Novella

E: Evan Bernstein

Guest

DS: Dave Stanton

Quote of the Week

Don't keep your minds so open that your brains fall out!

Walter Kotschnig, U.S. political expert

Links
Download Podcast
Show Notes
Forum Discussion

Introduction, updates on missing Rogues

Voice-over: You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.

...

G: Gentlemen! It's been far too long. It's been, what, four weeks? Three weeks? Eight weeks? What's it been? (Transcriptionist’s note: July 6 was 14 weeks after March 27!)

Recording Audiobooks (1:43)

Robot Narrators (5:52)

Special Segment: The Fate of Fireworks (15:03)

...

E: Steve, didn't we have a Science or Fiction about the earliest firearms recently?[link needed]

News Items

S:

B:

C:

J:

E:

(laughs) (laughter) (applause) [inaudible]

Universal Coronavirus Vaccine (23:19)

Preserving Ukraine's Landmarks (40:44)

Detecting Particles with Gravitational Waves (52:01)

Who Owns the Moon? (1:00:37)

S: ... We've talked about this before, [link needed] but this is now rearing up again.

Questions/Emails/Corrections/Follow-ups

Question #1: What is a Skeptic? (1:09:54)

A skeptic is defined as someone who questions "factual" evidence and maintains a "doubting" attitude. This is contrary to what I believe your show is about, in terms of convincing people that their belief in pseudo-science is invalid. My question is, what is the best way to overcome the conventional attitude associated with the word skeptic when trying to make a valid argument with someone who questions the foundation upon which the argument is built? Questioning the questioner?

– Nicholas O'Meara, Australia

Interview with Dave Stanton (1:14:32)

Dave Stanton, paleogeneticist and Research Associate at Queen Mary University of London

Science or Fiction (1:33:16)

Theme: Weird Science

Item #1: Shortly after Alfred Wegner proposed his theory of continental drift in 1912, English geologist, Henry Peckingham, proposed that the primary mechanism was the prevailing wind and ocean currents pushing the continents, a theory that enjoyed substantial, although minority, support into the 1930s.[7]
Item #2: Dr. Henry Cotton became the famous superintendent of the Trenton Psychiatric Hospital from 1907 to 1933, during which time he and his assistants removed 11,000 teeth and performed 645 surgeries to remove organs in the belief this would cure mental illness.[8]
Item #3: In 1894 Hanns Hörbiger developed his World Ice Doctrine, the notion that ice is the fundamental building block of the universe, a theory that remained popular until 1945, and was even officially adopted by Hitler and his government.[9]

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Fiction Continents are pushed
Science Removing teeth & organs
Science
World ice doctrine
Host Result
Steve swept
Rogue Guess
Bob
 Continents are pushed
George
 Continents are pushed
Evan
 Continents are pushed

Voice-over: It's time for Science or Fiction.

Bob's Response

George's Response

Evan's Response

Steve Explains Item #3

Steve Explains Item #2

Steve Explains Item #1

Skeptical Quote of the Week (1:54:32)

Don't keep your minds so open that your brains fall out!
– Walter Kotschnig (1901-1985), American political expert, from a speech given on November 8, 1939

Signoff/Announcements ()

S: —and until next week, this is your Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.

S: Skeptics' Guide to the Universe is produced by SGU Productions, dedicated to promoting science and critical thinking. For more information, visit us at theskepticsguide.org. Send your questions to info@theskepticsguide.org. And, if you would like to support the show and all the work that we do, go to patreon.com/SkepticsGuide and consider becoming a patron and becoming part of the SGU community. Our listeners and supporters are what make SGU possible.

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References

  1. ↑ Science-Based Medicine: Possible Universal Coronavirus Vaccine
  2. ↑ Fast Company: UNESCO project aims to digitally preserve Ukraine landmarks facing damage by war
  3. ↑ ScienceDaily: Detecting new particles around black holes with gravitational waves
  4. ↑ NBC: China rejects NASA accusation it will take over the moon
  5. ↑ Nature: Ice Age wolf genomes home in on dog origins
  6. ↑ Popular Science: Ancient wolf DNA is being used to sniff out where our love story with dogs began
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  10. ↑ [url_for_TIL publication: title]

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