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=== Life on Venus <small>()</small> ===
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* [https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/life-on-venus/ Neurologica: Life on Venus?]<ref>[https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/life-on-venus/ Neurologica: Life on Venus?]</ref>
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<blockquote><p style="line-height:115%">Hello Skeptics,<br><br>First off thanks for responding to my last email. Love the show! The air quality in Vancouver was the worst in the world according to IQ Air on Sunday, September 13. It was reported that much of this is due to smoke from wildfires in the US blowing up towards our country and spreading over our province. This prompted me to search for more information on the fires. The President of the US and the Governor of California met and discussed the wildfires, and the exchange was a bit odd to say the least. It seemed both agreed there was bad forest management at play - and that policy could change this for the future - but the Governor implied climate change was a major factor. Is this true? I've read conflicting information. How much of this is caused by bad forestry management, and is there anything that can be done, policy wise, that can make California and the {{w|Pacific Northwest|PNW}} safer and better equipped to manage fires?<br><br>–Derek S., British Columbia, Canada</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote>'''Theme: Paleontology'''<br>'''Item #1:''' Archeologists have found direct evidence that our human ancestors were boiling food in hot springs almost 2 million year ago, one million year before the first evidence of cooking with fire.<ref>[https://news.mit.edu/2020/early-human-hot-springs-food-0915 MIT News: Did our early ancestors boil their food in hot springs?]</ref><br>'''Item #2:''' Scientists have discovered a new mass extinction, occurring 233 million years ago and paving the way for the rise of the dinosaurs.<ref>[https://phys.org/news/2020-09-discovery-mass-extinction.html Science Advances: Discovery of a new mass extinction]</ref><br>'''Item #3:''' Paleontologists have discovered the oldest known sperm, of a 100 million year old crustacean preserved in amber.<ref>[https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2020.1661 Royal Society: Exceptional preservation of reproductive organs and giant sperm in Cretaceous ostracods]</ref></blockquote>


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SGU Episode 793
September 19th 2020
Venus.jpg
(brief caption for the episode icon)

SGU 792                      SGU 794

Skeptical Rogues
S: Steven Novella

B: Bob Novella

C: Cara Santa Maria

J: Jay Novella

E: Evan Bernstein

Quote of the Week

Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Links
Download Podcast
Show Notes
Forum Discussion


Introduction

Voiceover: You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.

COVID-19 Update ()

Forgotten Superheroes of Science ()

News Items

S:

B:

C:

J:

E:

(laughs) (laughter) (applause) [inaudible]

Life on Venus ()

QAnon ()

Taxonomy of Lying and Cheating ()

AI Peer Review ()

Who's That Noisy? ()

New Noisy ()

[_short_vague_description_of_Noisy]

Questions/Emails/Corrections/Follow-ups ()

Follow-up #1: Black Bears and Wolves ()

Email #1: Forest Fires ()

Hello Skeptics,

First off thanks for responding to my last email. Love the show! The air quality in Vancouver was the worst in the world according to IQ Air on Sunday, September 13. It was reported that much of this is due to smoke from wildfires in the US blowing up towards our country and spreading over our province. This prompted me to search for more information on the fires. The President of the US and the Governor of California met and discussed the wildfires, and the exchange was a bit odd to say the least. It seemed both agreed there was bad forest management at play - and that policy could change this for the future - but the Governor implied climate change was a major factor. Is this true? I've read conflicting information. How much of this is caused by bad forestry management, and is there anything that can be done, policy wise, that can make California and the PNW safer and better equipped to manage fires?

–Derek S., British Columbia, Canada

Science or Fiction ()

Answer Item
Fiction Hot springs boiling
Science New mass extinction
Science
Oldest known sperm
Host Result
Steve sweep
Rogue Guess
Cara
New mass extinction
Jay
Oldest known sperm
Bob
New mass extinction
Evan
New mass extinction

Voiceover: It's time for Science or Fiction.

Theme: Paleontology
Item #1: Archeologists have found direct evidence that our human ancestors were boiling food in hot springs almost 2 million year ago, one million year before the first evidence of cooking with fire.[6]
Item #2: Scientists have discovered a new mass extinction, occurring 233 million years ago and paving the way for the rise of the dinosaurs.[7]
Item #3: Paleontologists have discovered the oldest known sperm, of a 100 million year old crustacean preserved in amber.[8]

Cara's Response

Jay's Response

Bob's Response

Evan's Response

Steve Explains Item #1

Steve Explains Item #2

Steve Explains Item #3

Skeptical Quote of the Week ()

Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
Douglas Adams (1952-2001), English author, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Signoff/Announcements ()

S: —and until next week, this is your Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.

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