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== Introduction ==
== Introduction ==
''Voiceover: You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.''
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* [https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/face-mask-war/ Neurologica: Face Mask War]<ref>[https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/face-mask-war/ Neurologica: Face Mask War]</ref>
* [https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/face-mask-war/ Neurologica: Face Mask War]<ref>[https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/face-mask-war/ Neurologica: Face Mask War]</ref>


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== News Items ==
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== Who's That Noisy? <small>()</small> ==
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Answer to last week’s Noisy: Pinball Machine
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== Name That Logical Fallacy <small>()</small> ==
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* Unoriginal Arguments
<blockquote><p style="line-height:125%">Hello, Rogues! I believe this is a question for Steve. Often when arguing on the Internet, I see arguments dismissed as unoriginal, regardless of how well thought out it is. It always feels to me like a way of avoiding making any real counter-argument, rather than a legitimate criticism. I don't think I've ever heard this subject handled on the SGU, and I'm very interested in what Steve, the SGU's resident authority on logical fallacies, has to say about dismissing arguments as unoriginal. Keep it up! - Noel</p></blockquote>


== Science or Fiction <small>()</small> ==
== Science or Fiction <small>()</small> ==
''Voiceover: It's time for Science or Fiction.''
<blockquote>'''Theme: Regenerative Medicine'''
<br>Item #1: Scientists were able to keep pancreas slices alive in culture for up to 10 days and demonstrate regeneration of the insulin-producing cells when stimulated by a growth factor.<ref>[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17040-8 Nature: Long-term culture of human pancreatic slices as a model to study real-time islet regeneration]</ref><br>Item #2: Medical researchers successfully coaxed damaged adult mouse lungs to grow new air sacs, increasing lung capacity and oxygen exchange.<ref>[https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/new-stem-cell-identified-lung-tissue-regeneration NIH: New stem cell identified for lung tissue regeneration]</ref><br>Item #3: Researchers were able to reprogram adult cells normally present in the inner ear into sound-sensing hair cells using only four transcription factors.<ref>[https://stemcell.keck.usc.edu/usc-stem-cell-scientists-find-a-simpler-way-to-make-sensory-hearing-cells/ USC: USC Stem Cell scientists find a simpler way to make sensory hearing cells]</ref></blockquote>
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''Voiceover: It's time for Science or Fiction.''
<blockquote>'''Theme: Regenerative Medicine'''
<br>'''Item #1:''' Scientists were able to keep pancreas slices alive in culture for up to 10 days and demonstrate regeneration of the insulin-producing cells when stimulated by a growth factor.<ref>[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17040-8 Nature: Long-term culture of human pancreatic slices as a model to study real-time islet regeneration]</ref><br>'''Item #2:''' Medical researchers successfully coaxed damaged adult mouse lungs to grow new air sacs, increasing lung capacity and oxygen exchange.<ref>[https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/new-stem-cell-identified-lung-tissue-regeneration NIH: New stem cell identified for lung tissue regeneration]</ref><br>'''Item #3:''' Researchers were able to reprogram adult cells normally present in the inner ear into sound-sensing hair cells using only four transcription factors.<ref>[https://stemcell.keck.usc.edu/usc-stem-cell-scientists-find-a-simpler-way-to-make-sensory-hearing-cells/ USC: USC Stem Cell scientists find a simpler way to make sensory hearing cells]</ref></blockquote>
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== Skeptical Quote of the Week <small>()</small> ==
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SGU Episode 782
July 1st 2020
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SGU 781                      SGU 783

Skeptical Rogues
S: Steven Novella

B: Bob Novella

C: Cara Santa Maria

J: Jay Novella

E: Evan Bernstein

Quote of the Week

Pulling bad science apart is the best teaching gimmick I know for explaining how good science really works.

Ben Goldacre, British physicist

Links
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Show Notes
Forum Discussion


Introduction[edit]

Voiceover: You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.


COVID-19 Update ()[edit]

What's the Word? (m:ss)[edit]

News Items[edit]

S:

B:

C:

J:

E:

(laughs) (laughter) (applause) [inaudible]

Raw Milk ()[edit]

Monster Quasar ()[edit]

Asteroid Killed the Dinosaurs ()[edit]

Visualizing Data ()[edit]

Who's That Noisy? ()[edit]

New Noisy ()[edit]

[brief, vague description of Noisy]

Name That Logical Fallacy ()[edit]

  • Unoriginal Arguments

Hello, Rogues! I believe this is a question for Steve. Often when arguing on the Internet, I see arguments dismissed as unoriginal, regardless of how well thought out it is. It always feels to me like a way of avoiding making any real counter-argument, rather than a legitimate criticism. I don't think I've ever heard this subject handled on the SGU, and I'm very interested in what Steve, the SGU's resident authority on logical fallacies, has to say about dismissing arguments as unoriginal. Keep it up! - Noel

Science or Fiction ()[edit]

Answer Item
Fiction Mouse lungs
Science Pancreas slices
Science
Hair cells
Host Result
Steve clever
Rogue Guess
Bob
Pancreas slices
Evan
Mouse lungs
Cara
Hair cells
Jay
Mouse lungs

Voiceover: It's time for Science or Fiction.

Theme: Regenerative Medicine
Item #1: Scientists were able to keep pancreas slices alive in culture for up to 10 days and demonstrate regeneration of the insulin-producing cells when stimulated by a growth factor.[6]
Item #2: Medical researchers successfully coaxed damaged adult mouse lungs to grow new air sacs, increasing lung capacity and oxygen exchange.[7]
Item #3: Researchers were able to reprogram adult cells normally present in the inner ear into sound-sensing hair cells using only four transcription factors.[8]

Bob's Response[edit]

Evan's Response[edit]

Cara's Response[edit]

Jay's Response[edit]

Steve Explains Item 1[edit]

Steve Explains Item 2[edit]

Steve Explains Item 3[edit]

Skeptical Quote of the Week ()[edit]

Pulling bad science apart is the best teaching gimmick I know for explaining how good science really works.
Ben Goldacre, British physicist, I Think You'll Find it's a Bit More Complicated Than That.[9]

Signoff/Announcements ()[edit]

S: —and until next week, this is your Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.

S: Skeptics' Guide to the Universe is produced by SGU Productions, dedicated to promoting science and critical thinking. For more information, visit us at theskepticsguide.org. Send your questions to info@theskepticsguide.org. And, if you would like to support the show and all the work that we do, go to patreon.com/SkepticsGuide and consider becoming a patron and becoming part of the SGU community. Our listeners and supporters are what make SGU possible.

Today I Learned[edit]

  • Fact/Description, possibly with an article reference[10]
  • Fact/Description
  • Fact/Description

References[edit]

Vocabulary[edit]

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