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== News Items <small>()</small> == | == News Items <small>()</small> == | ||
=== Friday 13th (Paraskevidekatriaphobia) <small>()</small> === | === Friday 13th (Paraskevidekatriaphobia) <small>(1:03)</small> === | ||
* urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/friday_the_13th.htm<br/> | * urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/friday_the_13th.htm<br/> | ||
=== Comet to hit Earth <small>()</small> === | === Comet to hit Earth <small>(2:00)</small> === | ||
* http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1716655/posts<br/> | * http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1716655/posts<br/> | ||
=== Score One for Evolution in Michigan <small>()</small> === | === Score One for Evolution in Michigan <small>(7:40)</small> === | ||
* news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061010/ap_on_re_us/michigan_science<br/> | * news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061010/ap_on_re_us/michigan_science<br/> | ||
=== New Science Curriculum in the UK <small>()</small> === | === New Science Curriculum in the UK <small>(10:40)</small> === | ||
* news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6038638.stm<br/> | * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6038638.stm<br/> | ||
== Questions and E-mails <small>()</small> == | == Questions and E-mails <small>()</small> == | ||
=== Corrections <small>()</small> === | === Corrections <small>(13:24)</small> === | ||
<blockquote>Just a comment on the show from 2 weeks ago, about the loris in the pants. Not to be pedantic, but I want The Skeptics Guide to maintain its biology street cred. Perry, a loris is not a monkey, but belongs in the prosimian group or clade along with the lemurs, pottos, and bushbabies. A clade is an evolutionary branch which includes all members on that branch and only members on that branch. The term 'monkeys' is an artificial grouping, not a clade, usually referring to new world monkeys and old world monkeys as a group and excluding the apes (orangs, chimps, gorillas, gibbons, and humans). The technical term is that the term 'monkeys' represents a paraphyletic grouping. Rebecca might respond that using the example of a loris versus a bird of paradise would be phylogenically like pitting a chimpanzee versus a Komodo dragon (I'm betting against the 'monkey' there!). The loris shares a relatively recent common ancestor with the other primates including chimps just as the Komodo dragon shares a relatively recent ancestor with the birds.<br/><br/>Keep up the good work. Love the show!<br/><br/>Joe Walsh<br/>Cote d'ivoire<br/><br/>Correct, here is a link: pin.primate.wisc.edu/factsheets/links/nycticebus<br/><br/><br/ | <blockquote>Just a comment on the show from 2 weeks ago, about the loris in the pants. Not to be pedantic, but I want The Skeptics Guide to maintain its biology street cred. Perry, a loris is not a monkey, but belongs in the prosimian group or clade along with the lemurs, pottos, and bushbabies. A clade is an evolutionary branch which includes all members on that branch and only members on that branch. The term 'monkeys' is an artificial grouping, not a clade, usually referring to new world monkeys and old world monkeys as a group and excluding the apes (orangs, chimps, gorillas, gibbons, and humans). The technical term is that the term 'monkeys' represents a paraphyletic grouping. Rebecca might respond that using the example of a loris versus a bird of paradise would be phylogenically like pitting a chimpanzee versus a Komodo dragon (I'm betting against the 'monkey' there!). The loris shares a relatively recent common ancestor with the other primates including chimps just as the Komodo dragon shares a relatively recent ancestor with the birds.<br/><br/>Keep up the good work. Love the show!<br/><br/>Joe Walsh<br/>Cote d'ivoire<br/><br/>Correct, here is a link: pin.primate.wisc.edu/factsheets/links/nycticebus<br/><br/><br/> | ||
=== Water Cycle <small>()</small> === | === Corrections <small>(21:08)</small> === | ||
As the self-appointed Resident Brazil Specialist, I must correct what was said in this latest podcast about the girl who cried pieces of glass.<br/><br/>She absolutely wasn't brazillian; she wasn't even south american.<br/>With a little googling, I found out her name (Hasnah Mohamed Meselmani), and her nationality: she was Lebanese, and the case took place in 1996.<br/><br/>Gilnei<br/>From the Message Boards<br/><br/>Again, correct: Although the story was original broke on Brazilian television, hence the confusion.<br/>www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2843/is_n3_v21/ai_19524413<br/><br/></blockquote> | |||
=== Water Cycle <small>(22:10)</small> === | |||
<blockquote>My children were taught in science that the amount of water on the earth is a constant and has been forever. It may change from being frozen, vapor in the form of clouds, or deep under ground, but there's always the same amount of water (I presume measured by mass of water molecules?).<br/><br/>I wondered when my kids informed me of this, and now I'm wondering again because my mother was at an ecology lecture where she was told the same and it amazed her so that she had to share it with me.<br/><br/>My question: I believe that water vapor is a byproduct of certain combustions - like when hydrogen is burned as a fuel. Isn't this using a chemical reaction to create water molecules where before there were only hydrogen and oxygen. On the other side of the equation, I believe I have heard of separating the hydrogen and oxygen atoms of water molecules to obtain oxygen.<br/><br/>If water is a byproduct of a chemical reaction burning hydrogen, and we can separate water into it's component elements, how can the amount of water on earth remain constant?<br/><br/>Are the ecologists giving us bad information?<br/><br/>Jon Giltner</blockquote> | <blockquote>My children were taught in science that the amount of water on the earth is a constant and has been forever. It may change from being frozen, vapor in the form of clouds, or deep under ground, but there's always the same amount of water (I presume measured by mass of water molecules?).<br/><br/>I wondered when my kids informed me of this, and now I'm wondering again because my mother was at an ecology lecture where she was told the same and it amazed her so that she had to share it with me.<br/><br/>My question: I believe that water vapor is a byproduct of certain combustions - like when hydrogen is burned as a fuel. Isn't this using a chemical reaction to create water molecules where before there were only hydrogen and oxygen. On the other side of the equation, I believe I have heard of separating the hydrogen and oxygen atoms of water molecules to obtain oxygen.<br/><br/>If water is a byproduct of a chemical reaction burning hydrogen, and we can separate water into it's component elements, how can the amount of water on earth remain constant?<br/><br/>Are the ecologists giving us bad information?<br/><br/>Jon Giltner</blockquote> | ||
=== The Moon and Stars <small>()</small> === | === The Moon and Stars <small>(26:05)</small> === | ||
<blockquote>I'm just flabbergasted and here's why: tinyurl.com/qmukt and here's the link to the folks who are selling land on the moon: me.moonestates.com/ Can this really be done? Can anybody really 'own' the moon or is this just some fun conversation piece to share with friends and nobody actually owns part of the moon?<br/><br/>Scott Breitbach<br/>US/IA<br/><br/>Similar scam - the international star registry:<br/>www.starregistry.com/<br/></blockquote> | <blockquote>I'm just flabbergasted and here's why: tinyurl.com/qmukt and here's the link to the folks who are selling land on the moon: me.moonestates.com/ Can this really be done? Can anybody really 'own' the moon or is this just some fun conversation piece to share with friends and nobody actually owns part of the moon?<br/><br/>Scott Breitbach<br/>US/IA<br/><br/>Similar scam - the international star registry:<br/>www.starregistry.com/<br/></blockquote> | ||
== Name That Logical Fallacy <small>()</small> == | |||
== Name That Logical Fallacy <small>(31:27)</small> == | |||
* Logical Fallacies | * Logical Fallacies | ||
<blockquote>From: www.ianjuby.org/tour1.html<br/>The Creation Science Museum of Canada<br/>Submitted by Manny G. on our forums<br/><br/>'Many types of bacteria swim through water by spinning a rubber-like 'tail' called a flagellum. Because it's rubber-like and because the semi-solid 'hook' holds it at an angle, the flagellum takes on a corkscrew shape, acting like a propeller in the water.<br/><br/>This is like you being able to spin you head around, and around, and around! So how does it do it? Scientists are pushing the limits of modern technology to be able to dissect these bacteria to see just how on earth they spin their tails. It turns out that the bacteria has something that is just like an electric motor built inside of it!<br/>When we take a look inside the bacterial flagellum, we see a stator (the C ring, held in place by the STUDS), a rotor (the M & S rings), the drive shaft (the ROD), the bushing or bearing (the L & P rings), it even has what many have called the 'universal joint', the hook - which is what changes the direction of the rotational force.<br/><br/>But what of the bacterial motor? It is no different than the electric motor! How could it have evolved? If any one of those parts isn't quite evolved, the whole system breaks down, our bacteria can't get around and it dies! If any one of those parts suffers a change in its attempt to 'evolve', it no longer does its original job, the whole motor fails, the bacteria dies!<br/><br/>In modern times we think something is a superior technology if it's smaller, faster, more energy efficient. Well, this motor is so small 8,000,000 of them can fit on the tip of one of your hairs! An electric motor cannot reproduce, or find its own energy, or repair itself! The bacteria can do all of these.<br/><br/>Where there is design, there is a designer.'<br/></blockquote> | <blockquote>From: www.ianjuby.org/tour1.html<br/>The Creation Science Museum of Canada<br/>Submitted by Manny G. on our forums<br/><br/>'Many types of bacteria swim through water by spinning a rubber-like 'tail' called a flagellum. Because it's rubber-like and because the semi-solid 'hook' holds it at an angle, the flagellum takes on a corkscrew shape, acting like a propeller in the water.<br/><br/>This is like you being able to spin you head around, and around, and around! So how does it do it? Scientists are pushing the limits of modern technology to be able to dissect these bacteria to see just how on earth they spin their tails. It turns out that the bacteria has something that is just like an electric motor built inside of it!<br/>When we take a look inside the bacterial flagellum, we see a stator (the C ring, held in place by the STUDS), a rotor (the M & S rings), the drive shaft (the ROD), the bushing or bearing (the L & P rings), it even has what many have called the 'universal joint', the hook - which is what changes the direction of the rotational force.<br/><br/>But what of the bacterial motor? It is no different than the electric motor! How could it have evolved? If any one of those parts isn't quite evolved, the whole system breaks down, our bacteria can't get around and it dies! If any one of those parts suffers a change in its attempt to 'evolve', it no longer does its original job, the whole motor fails, the bacteria dies!<br/><br/>In modern times we think something is a superior technology if it's smaller, faster, more energy efficient. Well, this motor is so small 8,000,000 of them can fit on the tip of one of your hairs! An electric motor cannot reproduce, or find its own energy, or repair itself! The bacteria can do all of these.<br/><br/>Where there is design, there is a designer.'<br/></blockquote> | ||
== Interview with Stuart Vyse <small>()</small> == | == Interview with Stuart Vyse <small>(36:15)</small> == | ||
* Stuart Vyse is a professor of psychology at Connecticut College.<br/><br/>He is the author of Believing in Magic: The Psychology of Superstition, (Oxford University Press, 1997) which has been published in Japanese and German and received the 1999 William James Book Award.<br/> | * Stuart Vyse is a professor of psychology at Connecticut College.<br/><br/>He is the author of Believing in Magic: The Psychology of Superstition, (Oxford University Press, 1997) which has been published in Japanese and German and received the 1999 William James Book Award.<br/> | ||
== Randi Speaks <small>()</small> == | == Randi Speaks <small>(1:01:22)</small> == | ||
* The Uncompromising Observations of a Veteran Skeptic<br/><br/>Each week James Randi gives a skeptical commentary in his own unique style.<br/><br/>This week's topic: Aromatherapy<br/> | * The Uncompromising Observations of a Veteran Skeptic<br/><br/>Each week James Randi gives a skeptical commentary in his own unique style.<br/><br/>This week's topic: Aromatherapy<br/> | ||
== Science or Fiction <small>()</small> == | |||
== Science or Fiction <small>(1:06:29)</small> == | |||
Question #1: Research indicates that brief internet counseling is effective in the treatment of depression, as effective as traditional psychotherapies. | Question #1: Research indicates that brief internet counseling is effective in the treatment of depression, as effective as traditional psychotherapies. | ||
Question #2: Robot gardener - a robot designed at the university of Illinois, will move up and down the rows of a crop field, recognize weeds by sight, and then cut and spray them. | Question #2: Robot gardener - a robot designed at the university of Illinois, will move up and down the rows of a crop field, recognize weeds by sight, and then cut and spray them. | ||
Question #3: Sony just announced plans to release a new version of their popular playstation that they claim can be played 'hands free,' with the use of the mind alone. | Question #3: Sony just announced plans to release a new version of their popular playstation that they claim can be played 'hands free,' with the use of the mind alone. | ||
== Quote of the Week <small>()</small> == | |||
== Quote of the Week <small>(1:15:12)</small> == | |||
<blockquote>'Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.'- Carl Sagan</blockquote> | <blockquote>'Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.'- Carl Sagan</blockquote> | ||
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Introduction
You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.
News Items ()
Friday 13th (Paraskevidekatriaphobia) (1:03)
- urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/friday_the_13th.htm
Comet to hit Earth (2:00)
Score One for Evolution in Michigan (7:40)
- news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061010/ap_on_re_us/michigan_science
New Science Curriculum in the UK (10:40)
- news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6038638.stm
Questions and E-mails ()
Corrections (13:24)
Just a comment on the show from 2 weeks ago, about the loris in the pants. Not to be pedantic, but I want The Skeptics Guide to maintain its biology street cred. Perry, a loris is not a monkey, but belongs in the prosimian group or clade along with the lemurs, pottos, and bushbabies. A clade is an evolutionary branch which includes all members on that branch and only members on that branch. The term 'monkeys' is an artificial grouping, not a clade, usually referring to new world monkeys and old world monkeys as a group and excluding the apes (orangs, chimps, gorillas, gibbons, and humans). The technical term is that the term 'monkeys' represents a paraphyletic grouping. Rebecca might respond that using the example of a loris versus a bird of paradise would be phylogenically like pitting a chimpanzee versus a Komodo dragon (I'm betting against the 'monkey' there!). The loris shares a relatively recent common ancestor with the other primates including chimps just as the Komodo dragon shares a relatively recent ancestor with the birds.
Keep up the good work. Love the show!
Joe Walsh
Cote d'ivoire
Correct, here is a link: pin.primate.wisc.edu/factsheets/links/nycticebus
Corrections (21:08)
As the self-appointed Resident Brazil Specialist, I must correct what was said in this latest podcast about the girl who cried pieces of glass.
She absolutely wasn't brazillian; she wasn't even south american.
With a little googling, I found out her name (Hasnah Mohamed Meselmani), and her nationality: she was Lebanese, and the case took place in 1996.
Gilnei
From the Message Boards
Again, correct: Although the story was original broke on Brazilian television, hence the confusion.
www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2843/is_n3_v21/ai_19524413
Water Cycle (22:10)
My children were taught in science that the amount of water on the earth is a constant and has been forever. It may change from being frozen, vapor in the form of clouds, or deep under ground, but there's always the same amount of water (I presume measured by mass of water molecules?).
I wondered when my kids informed me of this, and now I'm wondering again because my mother was at an ecology lecture where she was told the same and it amazed her so that she had to share it with me.
My question: I believe that water vapor is a byproduct of certain combustions - like when hydrogen is burned as a fuel. Isn't this using a chemical reaction to create water molecules where before there were only hydrogen and oxygen. On the other side of the equation, I believe I have heard of separating the hydrogen and oxygen atoms of water molecules to obtain oxygen.
If water is a byproduct of a chemical reaction burning hydrogen, and we can separate water into it's component elements, how can the amount of water on earth remain constant?
Are the ecologists giving us bad information?
Jon Giltner
The Moon and Stars (26:05)
I'm just flabbergasted and here's why: tinyurl.com/qmukt and here's the link to the folks who are selling land on the moon: me.moonestates.com/ Can this really be done? Can anybody really 'own' the moon or is this just some fun conversation piece to share with friends and nobody actually owns part of the moon?
Scott Breitbach
US/IA
Similar scam - the international star registry:
www.starregistry.com/
Name That Logical Fallacy (31:27)
- Logical Fallacies
From: www.ianjuby.org/tour1.html
The Creation Science Museum of Canada
Submitted by Manny G. on our forums
'Many types of bacteria swim through water by spinning a rubber-like 'tail' called a flagellum. Because it's rubber-like and because the semi-solid 'hook' holds it at an angle, the flagellum takes on a corkscrew shape, acting like a propeller in the water.
This is like you being able to spin you head around, and around, and around! So how does it do it? Scientists are pushing the limits of modern technology to be able to dissect these bacteria to see just how on earth they spin their tails. It turns out that the bacteria has something that is just like an electric motor built inside of it!
When we take a look inside the bacterial flagellum, we see a stator (the C ring, held in place by the STUDS), a rotor (the M & S rings), the drive shaft (the ROD), the bushing or bearing (the L & P rings), it even has what many have called the 'universal joint', the hook - which is what changes the direction of the rotational force.
But what of the bacterial motor? It is no different than the electric motor! How could it have evolved? If any one of those parts isn't quite evolved, the whole system breaks down, our bacteria can't get around and it dies! If any one of those parts suffers a change in its attempt to 'evolve', it no longer does its original job, the whole motor fails, the bacteria dies!
In modern times we think something is a superior technology if it's smaller, faster, more energy efficient. Well, this motor is so small 8,000,000 of them can fit on the tip of one of your hairs! An electric motor cannot reproduce, or find its own energy, or repair itself! The bacteria can do all of these.
Where there is design, there is a designer.'
Interview with Stuart Vyse (36:15)
- Stuart Vyse is a professor of psychology at Connecticut College.
He is the author of Believing in Magic: The Psychology of Superstition, (Oxford University Press, 1997) which has been published in Japanese and German and received the 1999 William James Book Award.
Randi Speaks (1:01:22)
- The Uncompromising Observations of a Veteran Skeptic
Each week James Randi gives a skeptical commentary in his own unique style.
This week's topic: Aromatherapy
Science or Fiction (1:06:29)
Question #1: Research indicates that brief internet counseling is effective in the treatment of depression, as effective as traditional psychotherapies. Question #2: Robot gardener - a robot designed at the university of Illinois, will move up and down the rows of a crop field, recognize weeds by sight, and then cut and spray them. Question #3: Sony just announced plans to release a new version of their popular playstation that they claim can be played 'hands free,' with the use of the mind alone.
Quote of the Week (1:15:12)
'Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.'- Carl Sagan
S: The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe is produced by the New England Skeptical Society in association with the James Randi Educational Foundation. For more information on this and other episodes, please visit our website at www.theskepticsguide.org. Please send us your questions, suggestions, and other feedback; you can use the "Contact Us" page on our website, or you can send us an email to info@theskepticsguide.org'. 'Theorem' is produced by Kineto and is used with permission.
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