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SGU Episode 884
June 18th 2022
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SGU 883                      SGU 885

Skeptical Rogues
S: Steven Novella

B: Bob Novella

C: Cara Santa Maria

J: Jay Novella

E: Evan Bernstein

Quote of the Week

Science is a search for basic truths about the Universe, a search which develops statements that appear to describe how the Universe works, but which are subject to correction, revision, adjustment, or even outright rejection, upon the presentation of better or conflicting evidence.

James Randi, Canadian-American magician and skeptic

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Introduction, JWST Hit, Force Fields

Voice-over: You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Future (5:54)

High School Reunions (7:07)

News Items

S:

B:

C:

J:

E:

(laughs) (laughter) (applause) [inaudible]

Is LaMDA AI Sentient? (11:43)

S: That's actually a really good segue to Jay's item, which is also about--

E: --Sex dolls.

S: --the human acceptance of digital, non-human entities.

AI Influencers (29:43)

S: Jay, tell us about AI influencers.

Kids Don't Get Cancer Because They're Unhappy (52:25)

Free Floating Black Hole (1:00:40)

Who's That Noisy? (1:11:27)

Answer to previous Noisy:
Seal chirps and bellows


New Noisy (1:13:32)

[hissing with rising horn sounds]

this week's Noisy

Announcements (1:14:14)

Questions/Emails/Corrections/Follow-ups (1:15:52)

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Correction & Follow-up #1: Gun Safety Regulation

Science or Fiction (1:32:23)

Theme: Science Misconceptions

Item #1: CO2 is not the greatest cause of recent global warming, but rather shorter-lived molecules such as methane.[5]
Item #2: Most of the energy generated by the sun is not caused by the fusion of hydrogen into helium.[6]
Item #3: The heating up of a spacecraft as it reenters and descends through the atmosphere is not mostly caused by friction, which is only responsible for a small amount of heat, <5%.[7]

Answer Item
Fiction Co2 and global warming
Science Spacecraft reentry and friction
Science
Sun's energy and h→he fusion
Host Result
Steve clever
Rogue Guess
Jay
Spacecraft reentry and friction
Cara
Co2 and global warming
Bob
Sun's energy and h→he fusion
Evan
Co2 and global warming

Voice-over: It's time for Science or Fiction.

Jay's Response

Cara's Response

Bob's Response

Evan's Response

Steve Explains Item #3

Steve Explains Item #2

Steve Explains Item #1

Skeptical Quote of the Week (1:49:55)

Science is a search for basic truths about the Universe, a search which develops statements that appear to describe how the Universe works, but which are subject to correction, revision, adjustment, or even outright rejection, upon the presentation of better or conflicting evidence.
James Randi (1928-2020), Canadian-American magician and skeptic

Signoff, SoF Bitterness (1:50:39)

S: —and until next week, this is your Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.

S: Skeptics' Guide to the Universe is produced by SGU Productions, dedicated to promoting science and critical thinking. For more information, visit us at theskepticsguide.org. Send your questions to info@theskepticsguide.org. And, if you would like to support the show and all the work that we do, go to patreon.com/SkepticsGuide and consider becoming a patron and becoming part of the SGU community. Our listeners and supporters are what make SGU possible.

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